As part of ConVerge, SFMOMA (San Francisco Museum of Modern Art) associate curator of performance and film Frank Smigiel interviewed artist Brontez Purnell, who activated Pope.L’s “Costume Made of Nothing” throughout the exhibition run.

Created from tables, chairs, and desks salvaged from a now-closed public school on Chicago’s South Side, Theaster Gates’s “See, Sit, Sup, Sing: Holding Court”—much like a classroom—is designed as an experience for learning that is created by the people assembled in and around it.

About “Radical Presence: Black Performance in Contemporary Art”:

YBCA is thrilled to be the only West Coast venue for Radical Presence: Black Performance in Contemporary Art, the first comprehensive survey of performance art by black visual artists from the United States and the Caribbean. The artists included in this exhibition have been using performance in their work for more than five decades, generating an incredible wealth of performance art that has been largely unrecognized until now. Radical Presence explores the history of black performance traditions within visual arts, beginning with Fluxus and Conceptual art in the 1960s all the way through present practices. This groundbreaking exhibition features video and photo documentation of performances, performance scores and installations, audience interactive works, as well as works created as a result of performances. Live performances will be scheduled throughout the run of the exhibition, including a special opening day celebration packed with nine performances.

This is an interview with Post-Modern choreographer, dancer, and indie rock musician Brontez Purnell speaking about his life and work, conducted at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco, CA on 2015-08-20. Video recorded on an iPhone 6 by Nicholas Taplin.